Strawn and Carroll in a tight race. I think at the end of the day we are going to end up with both of these men serving in official roles in our Party. Pate’s entrance into the Co-Chair race is an interesting move as he is the only announced candidate for the position. SCC members have assumed that the Co-Chair would materialize out of the Chair candidates. So where’s Leon? Word on the street is that the committee has made it known that he doesn’t have the votes to get re-elected. While Leon remains popular with many activists, his endorsement and campaigning for Steve Rathje in the last election cycle rubbed some people the wrong way.
No matter what happens on Saturday, I will stick to my pledge in supporting our new chair. My friends in Flyover Country have some great ideas for the next chairman. I have some ideas of my own which I will share with you tomorrow. Give their post a read, its first class.
The Dark Horse: Linda Harrington?
I agree with those who find humor in the latest entry to the chair race. Not really what I had in mind for my dark horse. While that candidate never emerged, the recent development of Gopal not running and Paul Pate offering his services as Co-Chair not Chair proves the volatility of races like these.
Out of Nowhere QCI endorses Strawn
Grant’s endorsement is well done, and a good read. I guess one could say instead of an endorsement, I went the other direction with Gopal…
Thursday, January 8, 2009
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Krusty - you are exactly right.
ReplyDeleteI think that with 2008 behind us, we should not dwell on it, and I for one will support our new chairman, be it any of these guys! This will be the official start to a new beginning.
The time for squabbling is over. Let's unite on Saturday and - here is a KRAZY KONCEPT - actually have fun! Think about it - when was the last time you had fun trying to elect Republicans?
Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I'm ready to have some fun again.
Godspeed to our new chairman and RPI staff!
So is it going to be Strawn/Pate or Carroll/Pate? Enquiring minds want to know.
ReplyDeleteHarrington/Pate?
ReplyDeleteHerschel - I hate to throw gas over the lit match but you are the best person to stay on top of this scenario:
ReplyDeleteHow does the Gopal/Sporer team attempt to play "kingmaker" in conjunction with Steve & Kim?
My fear...and it may be without merit, is that the "expected" result Saturday is nullified due to some last minute arm twisting, (called other things in Illinois) and thus, we have a polarized community...yes, once again and then a new leadership team thoroughly tainted by controversy and rendered in blunt terms, somewhat castrated in their ability to lead!
That's the worst case scenario as I see it. Like a dog returning to it's own vomit, we find ourselves in a new conflict upon which all the damage results from "friendly fire!"
I suspect you of all bloggers can investigate this and bring any conspiracy theories to light before they have time to hatch out Saturday.
If the SCC and our leadership demonstrate transparency and integrity, we make new giant strides in our party!
I think the entire SCC has a huge case of RPI Chair fatigue. Let's get this thing over with.
ReplyDeleteI agree wtih 9:57.
ReplyDeleteNow what can we expect in the new year from Kim "I never did anything wrong and I'll never do it again or maybe I will and you all can F@#% off" Lehman?
I think any hope of a last min arm twisting went out the window when Gopal had him tantrum.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry about Sporer. He's tied up and in interrogation at CTU.
ReplyDeleteKrustee
ReplyDeletei jus vant to zay zat i zink yoo hav beeen veddy, veddy unfayr too me an i am veddy veddy sadd dat i vont bee ze chayrmahn
Gopal
Our focus must become Democrats and the destruction they are bringing to our state and country.
ReplyDeleteThe level of their corruption and incompetence is shocking.
These people are DANGEROUS!!!!! They must be stopped while there's still something left.
first we must deal with the board in our own eye before we can deal with the one in the democrats.
ReplyDeleteHopefully the new chair will be the final blow to our own 'board' of corruption and backroom deals.
maybe we should pick on a particular Dem staffer each week and show some of their interesting connection? maybe we could get some indictment here in IA?
ReplyDeleteKrusty you really might be getting your dark horse
ReplyDeleterumor has it there is a dark horse in the co-chair's race stay tuned...
No more former state reps please. And no more from the golden circle.
ReplyDeleteI don't care if they are former state representatives. I'd prefer that they weren't defeated for thier seat though. I'd also like to state the obvious in suggesting that we have some geographical balance to the chair and co-chair. I think Pate, Mosley or Reed would be ideal.
ReplyDeleteLehman, Scheffler, Smith, Krishna, Sporer = 5 votes = 30% of board = continuing problems???
ReplyDeletethere are a few other SCC members that I almost put on this list that could take it to very close to 50%.
The Gentleman from CD1 that is ill - does that leave them with a potential 8/8 deadlock?
Saturday should be interesting.
Carroll/Pate '09!!!
So let me understand what you are saying. You don’t want former state reps who have lost their seats, but you are OK with candidates that lost a US Senate seat, candidates that lost a primary for Governor and candidates that lost their Supervisor seat? I like Leon, Pate and Reed as well, but if you are going to apply a standard, you should probably make it a uniform standard. The problem with the standard however is that eventually, everyone will lose something in their careers … Unless you can get one of the big guns like Grassley or Bransted to do it. Personally, I dont really care about a win-loss record. Some of the best leaders in our county have lost an election at some point. John McCain lost to Bush in 2000, Jeb Bush lost in 1994, Michael Steel lost his Senate bid in 2006, Blackwell lost his bid for Governor of Ohio in 2006, George H. Bush lost to Reagan in 1980 and even Reagan lost one of his earlier campaigns in California.
ReplyDeleteDemocrats have the same problem in their leaders. Clinton lost his re-election for Governor of Arkansas, even their dear leader Barack lost a Congressional campaign to Bobby everyone who disagrees with me is a racist" Rush ... which is just sad considering how pathetic Rush is.
My point is, a win-loss record is stupid to look at because it doesn’t tell you anything about a candidate any more than a poll tells you about them. It’s a snapshot in time in a given area. It is not an indictment of their leadership qualities.
Sporer dosent have a vote. He isnt a committee member.
ReplyDeleteI vote Linda Harrington! Look how many press releases she has put out!
ReplyDeleteWatch the state party mafia in Des Moines pick central Iowa leaders and stick it to us commoners in Western and Eastern Iowa.
ReplyDeleteLinda Harrington is not only the Dark Horse. She is indeed a horse.
ReplyDeleteHey Brent -
ReplyDeleteThanks for your e-mail list!
Iowa Defense Alliance posted an endorsement - Danny Carroll.
ReplyDeletehttp://iowadefense.wordpress.com/
12:54 -
ReplyDelete- Sporer not on the SCC, duh I would have remembered that, had I thought... 1 vote is a big deal, makes me feel a bit better. thanks.
and I agree about win loss records - sometimes losing is where you gain the most knowledge/perspective/drive... I don't hold losses against anyone, it's what they do after that's telling.
OH
ReplyDeleteCarroll / Pate '09
1:25 - Yes, because the last chairman we had from western Iowa was so awesome.
ReplyDeleteI don't care about win/loss or geographical area. Just give me someone who can win elections.
Linda Harrington will win on the first ballot.
ReplyDeleteCentral Iowa GOP,
ReplyDeleteNice brochure. Did Santa Clause get you Publisher for Christmas? That's cute.
Iowa Defense Alliance endorsed Danny? That's like saying G$ just endorsed Strawn. Oh wait.
ReplyDeleteIdiots.
I hear Lehman's vote is public to Strawn- so SS does not have that one to deal- leaves 3-4 - him, Gopal, Smith and maybe Anderson to deal-
ReplyDeletethink the rest have split up to only two sides- that is why Pate jumped to not have to explain loosing- good guess is Randall may hold the winning vote at this point- Prediction? Too bad Danny your streak continues
Anderson is in Strawn's camp. The only vote Scheffler has is his own. I'm pretty sure he's fine with that.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0109/Four_for_Dawson.html?showall
ReplyDeleteFour for Dawson
Katon Dawson's campaign confirms that four Midwestern Republican National Committee members will endorse the South Carolina GOP Chairman in the wake of three days of RNC-related meetings in Washington, D.C.
Dawson -- as a sitting chairman, a member of the RNC -- is a natural contender for the post, he has a lower profile than some of his rivals. He has also been less strident in some of his condemnations of his own party structures than others, a pitch which may be better suited to the electorate. His campaign says the endorsements are a result of his pitch, and others', at the meetings.
The endorsers are , Iowa Christian leader Steve Scheffler, Kim Lehman of Iowa, Dee Dee Benkie of Indiana, and Demetra DeMonte of Illinois.
Do you notice how they call Scheffler: Christian Leader instead of giving him the title of "Iowa Committeeman"?
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Scheffler specified that?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........
ReplyDeleteHmm.. is that whom THEY want as RNC chair..or whom the SCC who represents the grassroots desires as RNC chair...
ReplyDeleteI thought Scheffler and Lehman represented people or something..
Pate should have no problem playing second fiddle, he does it over and over and over.
ReplyDeleteThank you very much Paul Danny Pate for taking the second seat.
2:58,
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to sell your e-mail list to QVC. they pay top dollar for lists of proven idiots that will buy anything!
I can wait for Pate to be Co Chair! When does he leave for Des Moines? Hubba hubba.
ReplyDeleteZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ReplyDeletePlease note that I am only one member of Iowa Defense Alliance. I endorsed Danny Carroll but I cannot speak for the whole group.
ReplyDeleteDoes Elvis know that his mentor and idol supprots Pate for co-chair? Might not be something she would want to hear about; how her boy is trashing her candidate for co-chair.
ReplyDeleteThis blog gets so worthless sometimes.
ReplyDeleteZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ReplyDeleteKim Lehman is being interviewed on Deace right now.
ReplyDeleteYou mean "disgraced national committeewoman Kim Lehman". Get it right.
ReplyDeleteKim said she is endorsing Dawson of SC
ReplyDeleteShe also said that the Republican party is not and should not be about getting Republicans elected.
ReplyDeleteThe Dems must love to hear that from the REPUBLICAN National Committeewomen.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ReplyDeleteDid Lehman seriously say that?? If so..she needs to be booted off the RNC immediately.
ReplyDeleteWhat other reason could there be to have a political party unless it's to get Republicans elected?
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting to hear.
I just found this quote by the great and perfect Deace on his "blog" that doesn't have a space for comments.
ReplyDeleteThis is one arrogant dude. If he's so perfect he's duty-bound to run for office because he is the only one who can save us.
Obama isn't going to like the competition. He thought he was the messiah but Deace thinks it's Deace.
"Republicans everywhere seem to be so lacking in genuine wisdom and courage that the best course they might have before them at the state level is to collectively take up the smoking habit and stand with the law-flaunting yet freedom-loving inhalers who view last legislative session's patronizing ode to the lungs as cause to shout "Give me nicotine or give me death."
Kim supporting Katon maybe the first good thing she has ever done. I can't wait till she is censured by the RNC for that comment.
ReplyDeleteThat is one of her favorite statements that RPI is not about winning - it is about picking litmus tested and approved candidates by some sort of secret vote of those that are in some way morally and ethically superior to normal Republicans - then if they loose and if the GOP has no power what so ever it is the fault of the same Republicans who do not messure up to whatever the litmus test standard is-
ReplyDeleteno wonder she is on Deace's show- they think alike
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz to all of you who lip off about others. I will be so glad when Sat. is over and we can get on to other things. There may be a whole new batch of people for you to bash, trash, and complain about.
ReplyDeleteGet a life. Do something worthwhile.
If there is any SCC member who cannot attend Saturday's meeting, they have the right to send a letter of proxy with another member from their CD or one of the County Chairs in their CD; according to RPI bylaws.
ReplyDeleteI thought you guys hated Deace, so why do you listen to him? To help him keep his job? Because like it or not his job depends on if you listen to him and not on if you agree with him. Keep up the good work.
ReplyDelete2:32 PM - Well I don't trust nor underestimate that coalition or that everything is as it seems. Gopal/Sporer could well have been a feint or a distraction, or even been set up to fail to give their true candidate cover. Gopal's temper tantrum could have been all part of that game.
ReplyDeleteI fully expect the smoky backroom to be busy. I wouldn't let my guard down for a second.
Paul Pate is NOT running for Co-Chair.
ReplyDeleteMatt - I understand your distrust- however I do not think it is cover at this time.
ReplyDeleteGopal and Scheffler made their attempt to usurp this process with their "secret" meeting before the December SCC meeting- Fortunatly there were enough SCC members who had had their eyes opened enough by then as to these peoples actions and backrooms deals that they simply said NO WAY- That effectively ended the coalition of 9-10 votes SS had thought he controlled on SCC
Now that block has schunk to only three perhaps.
Gopal's would not offer himself at the table for a cause - only for himself. He realized that it was not going to happen this time- imploded as in the past and lashed out by going to the alter of SteveDeace to plead how mistreated he was and is now hoping Deace can perform the miracle needed to continue to make Gopal relevant at all in RPI.
Blogs and the internet add up to quick communication and response as the report by GY as to the "Secret" meeting was out within hours statewide.
Such transparency is good. It marks the beginning of the end of backroom deals hopefully.
However such new communication is also dangerous and must still be taken with a grain of salt at times.
The word I have seen today is that Pate and Randall have withdrawn and are candidates for other postions. I have talked with one of these men and it was news to him. Both have endured this process and while they will not win and may end up in different positions neither has publicly stated they have withdrawn.
Like any new technology we must self police it with a medium of respect and honesty or otherwise risk - like Gopal- of becoming at the least non relevant or worse the target of government control.
No way? Paranoid? ASk the talk radio industry in a few months when the libs go after the BS "Fairness Doctrine"
10:01 pm
ReplyDeleteYou are greatly misinformed. Paul Pate is very much running for co-chair and has the endorsement of Congressman Steve King.
http://www.hawkeyegop.com/
ReplyDeletePate to run for Co-chair. Apparently David Chung is more informed thatn the anonymous bloggers here.
Quit filling this blog with bullshit.
ReplyDeleteI heard Jesus has endorsed Pate to be CoChair.
Paul Pate was endorsed by Chuck Norris and Easter Seals.
ReplyDelete9:10 & 9:12
ReplyDelete"Quit filling this blog with bullshit."
Head your own advice dumbass.
What time is the meeting/vote on Saturday? 10am?
ReplyDeleteFrom today's Gazette article:
ReplyDelete"Carroll, a pumpkin farmer, was known for his advocacy for conservative social issues during his six terms in the Iowa House.
Carroll declined to talk about why he's running for the position, or what direction he thinks the party should take."
Are you kidding me? Declined to talk?!?
C'mon folks, is this really who should be our party's voice?
Since the whole state is now buzzing about this event tomorrow, does it make any sense to expect a "mention" of the election on the IowaGOP.org site? There's only a news item posted 12-6 that announces the date of the election, but nothing after. With all the discussion of technology, can't we teach our staffers how to plug in the common sense clause and actually use the stuff?
ReplyDeleteIt's called communications 101.
Let's get this down before we give them 300-400 level tools or less politely, teach them how to use crayons before we give them airbrushes.
From a communications level, we're still drawing stick figures at E 9th Street!
May I add....the press note about the meeting tomorrow from the GOP site also states each of the candidates will have time to make statements before the SCC committee and answer any questions they may have. Is this still true?
Were that the case, why would you exclude the press? Someone go wake up Stu...and slap some sense into him.
Also, I'd like to hear one SCC member in the question and answer session they've "promised" call out Danny Carroll on his genuius quote to the CR Gazette about declining to discuss the direction our party should take?
Was he wearing a blue dress when he said that cause I'm thinking this rises to that particular level of stupidity!?
Linda Harrington is going to win!
ReplyDeleteI can't wait until she is chair!
I would not want to be a darkhorse when Steve King is backing Pate for co-chair.
ReplyDeleteQuit spewing this nonsense.
ReplyDeleteI know Danny well and when persented the opportunity to get his message across in the newspaper he wouldn't "decline to talk".
First of all, a reporter would say "declined to comment". If you're going to make stuff up, why don't you at least try harder.
Nice work Danny. Decline to talk.
ReplyDeleteNEXT
Hey 10:22... you might want to "decline to comment"
ReplyDeletehttp://www.gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090109/NEWS/701099945
Carroll, a pumpkin farmer, was known for his advocacy for conservative social issues during his six terms in the Iowa House.
ReplyDeleteCarroll declined to talk about why he's running for the position, or what direction he thinks the party should take.
Carroll declined to talk about why he's running for the position, or what direction he thinks the party should take.
ReplyDeleteWhy in the world would you decline to talk about why you are running? I like Danny but he is not a good communicator and this proves it.
ReplyDeleteStrawn/Pate
ReplyDeleteThe darkhorse is Jim Kurtenbach. He is another nice guy former state rep who much like Danny Carroll is on a losing streak. Contrary to Kim Lehman's philosophy its supposed to be about WINNING.
ReplyDelete5:06 AM - I hope you're right. The best thing we can have is a transparent, untainted chair. Let's hope.
ReplyDeleteCarroll declined to talk about why he's running for the position, or what direction he thinks the party should take.
ReplyDeleteWHAT'S WRONG WITH Y'ALL????
ReplyDeleteYOU HAVE COMPLETELY MISSED
ON PICKING THE REAL WINNER.
MY PREDICTION IS THAT MATT STRAWN
WILL BE OUR NEW CHAIRMAN......DEB
the only candidate we have for a transparent, untainted chair that is not backed by either the socons or the mods or any other special interest groups is Andy Cable.
ReplyDeleteIf I had a vote it would be for him.